'Succession' Season 4, episode 4: What does Shiv's pregnancy actually mean? (2024)

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'Succession' Season 4, episode 4: What does Shiv's pregnancy actually mean? (1)

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The fan theories were right! Shiv Roy (Sarah Snook) is, in fact, pregnant.

Following last week’s explosive revelations, episode 4 of Succession maintains the momentum with two plot-changing reveals. We first learn that Shiv is 20 weeks into her pregnancy. And we then learn that Logan (Brian Cox) has left a paper, akin to a will, that bestows Waystar to Kendall (Jeremy Strong). After several power plays during Logan’s funeral, team Roy arrives at a winning conclusion that sees Kendall and Roman (Kieran Culkin) both acting as interim CEOs in the immediate aftermath of their father’s passing. But why did Succession decide to drop these two bombs in the same episode?

Shiv’s pregnancy, which so far seems to be a secret, might have sealed a fate she clearly doesn’t want. When Kendall whips up the CEO plan that involves Roman by his side, Shiv is visibly upset — partially because she wants the position, and partially because she’s aware that her pregnancy might stop her from getting it. There’s a clear billionaire boys club forming, and Shiv’s not just being benched on the sidelines; her pregnancy might mean she’s being pushed to the last row of the audience.

Succession’s never shied away from tackling gender in the workplace, with the politics of that usually explored through Shiv. For the past four seasons, we’ve seen Shiv deal with misogyny, with Logan’s colleagues deeming her unfit for the title position as his daughter, not his son. Shiv was only ever “useful” to the company when her gender could be tokenized, like when they needed a female spokesperson to defend Waystar amid the sexual harassment scandal. Her pregnancy, paired with Kendall and Roman’s decision, brings her gender even more to the forefront.

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'Succession' Season 4, episode 4: What does Shiv's pregnancy actually mean? (2)

Shiv's as isolated as ever. Credit: David Russell / HBO

Women already have it tough in the workplace (to say the least), and pregnancy elevates that tenfold. There’s the immediate, incorrect presumption that new mothers are a liability, wrongly forced to choose between work or their kids. As soon as Kendall, Roman, and Tom (Matthew Macfadyen) find out Shiv’s pregnant, we can expect them to leave her out of Waystar matters even more than they already are. And while we might think Shiv has no way back in, this is Shiv Roy we’re talking about.

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Shiv’s currently all alone in her pregnancy. Kendall and Roman were her support system after the infamous Roy schism, but that’s changed after their CEO team-up. At this point, Shiv’s being exiled into an incredibly gendered corner that’s going to force her to fight back. We can expect her to lay her cards on the table and start pulling some Logan moves.

It’s disheartening to see women still being categorized into “mothers” or “CEOs” with no ground for crossover, a gross reality depicted in Succession. Waystar’s boys club is taking the reins, and Shiv is going to have to deal with the environment that creates. She’s been disappointed and betrayed by every man in her life, which hopefully promises one thing — she’s about to finally take her revenge. When you push a lioness into a corner, expect unprecedented ferociousness. If I were Kendall or Roman, I’d be really worried about that first bite.

How to watch: Succession is now streaming on Max.

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'Succession' Season 4, episode 4: What does Shiv's pregnancy actually mean? (2024)

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'Succession' Season 4, episode 4: What does Shiv's pregnancy actually mean? ›

Rather, her pregnancy signals that misery—the real birthright of the Roy children—will be inherited by the next generation. You can see this in Shiv's final scene, where she's sitting next to Tom in a darkened car as he holds his hand out for hers. She stoically complies.

Was Shiv really pregnant in Succession season 4? ›

Snook says when that balcony scene was filmed, more than halfway through production on the season, “I, as Sarah, was pregnant — but when we shot the scene, Shiv wasn't.”

How does Tom not know Shiv is pregnant? ›

Does Tom Know Shiv Is Pregnant? Shiv and Tom (Matthew Macfadyen) are in the middle of a brutal divorce. Despite their many confrontations during the season, she didn't tell him about the pregnancy until episode eight. She and Tom get into a fight, and she tells him that she's pregnant, and that it's his baby.

Who is the father of Shiv Roy's baby? ›

Shiv is pregnant with Tom's baby, conceived just before their marriage collapsed, as Shiv softly cooed to him, "I don't love you." At the last possible minute, Shiv voted to let her family's company be sold to Swedish tech weirdo Lukas Matsson (Alexander Skarsgård), who handed the CEO position to Tom.

How long was Shiv pregnant? ›

After Logan's death, we see Shiv's doctor informing her that the results of the amniocentesis are encouraging and we learn that she's less than 20 weeks pregnant. It is the day after her father's death, so a muted reaction seems appropriate, but Shiv shows no happiness, or even relief, when given this news.

What did Roman mean when he said Shiv was the bloodline? ›

Roman responds by saying that Shiv is the true bearer of the family's bloodline. He calls Kendall's children—an adopted daughter and, Roman hints, a son possibly conceived via sperm donor—a “pair of randos.” Roman's implication is that they aren't real Roys.

Are Shiv and Roman Roy twins? ›

However, one defining suggestion that they aren't twins is that on the HBO website, Shiv is referred to as the 'youngest of the Roy children'. In real life, Kieran is 40 and Sarah is 35, also suggesting he would play an older character.

Why did Shiv gain so much weight in Succession? ›

But in seasons 3 and 4 of the TV series Succession, she was so out of shape that viewers were curious. So, what was the reason behind Sarah Snook's weight gain? Surprisingly, Sarah Snook was pregnant in parts of seasons 3 and 4 of Success, and this made her add weight.

Is Tom Shiv's baby daddy? ›

Shiv as a single mom to a rando's child would not look attractive to the conservative Waystar board, and it especially wouldn't look good to Logan. (Plus, executive producer and writer Lucy Prebble confirmed on the official Succession podcast that Tom is the father.)

Was Siobhan actually pregnant? ›

The Adelaide-born actor added that she was actually pregnant while filming the show's final 10-episode season. However, she reassured viewers, “I mean, you couldn't super tell.”

Who is Connor Roy's dad? ›

Logan Roy. Logan Roy is the billionaire founder of media and entertainment conglomerate Waystar RoyCo. He is a brash leader whose primary focus was his company rather than his four children Connor, Kendall, Roman and Siobhan. Logan was born in 1938, to abject poverty in Dundee, Scotland.

Why did Shiv vote against Kendall? ›

Succession's Sarah Snook explains the reason for Shiv's pivotal vote in series finale. Snook says Shiv did not appreciate seeing Kendall put his feet up on Logan Roy's desk. Feet. Oh sure, they're useful for walking around on, but they can also get you into a lot of trouble.

Why is Shiv pinky? ›

In all honesty, "Pinky" could simply be a sweet nickname and refer to her being Logan's youngest child — as everyone knows, the pinky is the smallest finger, so it makes perfect sense why it's Shiv's nickname. A few other Succession fans revealed that "Pinky" is a really old-fashioned nickname for a redhead.

Is the actress that plays Shiv pregnant in real life? ›

Succession's Shiv gives birth in real life as Sarah Snook welcomes her first baby. Succession star Sarah Snook has given birth to her first child. The actress - who plays Shiv Roy in the HBO drama that ended on Monday night - shared a glimpse of her red-headed baby while watching the finale.

Do Kendall and Roman know Shiv is pregnant? ›

The embarrassing tumble makes the moment even more humiliating — but it's also concerning, because nobody knows Shiv is pregnant. Upstairs, Kendall and Roman enter Logan's office, an inner sanctum they've rarely stepped foot in.

Are Kendall's kids adopted? ›

It was previously theorized that both of Kendall's children were adopted, but in the Succession finale, Roman reveals that only one of them was adopted. The other was conceived via a sperm donor.

Do Kendall Shiv and Roman have the same mother? ›

Lady Caroline Alexandra Helena St John Collingwood is the second wife of Logan Roy and mother of Kendall, Roman, and Shiv. She is portrayed by Harriet Walter.

Will there be a season 5 of Succession? ›

Despite fans and critics wanting more, "Succession" season 5 will not happen. The fourth season was the definitive end for the acclaimed series. The ending of "Succession" was fitting for the main characters, with their storylines wrapped up.

Is Shiv older than Roman in Succession? ›

According to her character description (via HBO), Shiv is the youngest of the Roy siblings. Shiv has a banter with Roman on the show that she doesn't seem to have with Kendall or Connor, which makes sense if Roman and Shiv are close in age.

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