All the signs from the ‘Succession’ finale that hint at Shiv's pregnancy (2024)

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All the signs from the ‘Succession’ finale that hint at Shiv's pregnancy (1)

Girl, run.Credit: Graeme Hunter/HBO

Succession Season 3 delivered an explosive finale on Sunday, with a betrayal-laden sh*t storm that saw Shiv, Kendall, and Roman defeated by Logan.

But while some fans wring their hands over board seats, a contingent of theorizers suspects the biggest bomb of the episode went undropped. Is Shiv Roy pregnant?

Pregnancy planning throughout the season

The politically-minded heiress discussed her fertility at length this season, with her underhanded husband Tom showing an almost unnerving enthusiasm for procreation.

The subject is first broached in episode 5 "Retired Janitors of Idaho." With Tom worried his role in the cruises scandal will end in prison time, Tom tells Shiv he wants to conceive before being sent away. He subsequently reveals that he has been tracking Shiv’s menstrual cycle on his iCalendar — "It’s not creepy," he assures her — before suggesting the couple aim to sync her gestation period up with his detention sentence.

Shiv is predictably mortified, saying, "I don’t want to be your f*cking incubator for when you’re in prison doing chin-ups and reading Knausgård." But the conversation begins a critical discussion for the couple that’s raised again later.

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If you had just been nice to him ONE TIME...Credit: Screenshot: HBO

Fast forward to the penultimate episode 8 "Chiantishire." Shiv has a dicy conversation with Caroline about how "some people just aren’t made to be mothers," which leads to her telling Tom she now does want to have a baby. The pair proceed to have a brutally misguided boink, with Shiv telling her husband she doesn’t love him mid-foreplay and Tom taking that (understandably) personally.

The following day, Tom confronts Shiv about their crumbling marriage — and the all-important baby. Shiv hand waves the relationship issues away as a misunderstanding, before retooling her promises on the baby front. She lays out a multi-year plan to freeze a collection of her and Tom’s embryos, to which he says, "So we could be looking at like ten years? Ten years is like two-and-a-half Olympics." Shiv tells him she’ll think about it.

Parallels in Tom’s telling of the Nero myth

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OK, Nero.Credit: Graeme Hunter/HBO


All this marital discord lays essential groundwork for Tom to betray Shiv during the finale.

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In episode 9 "All the Bells Say," Tom sabotages Shiv, Kendall, and Roman’s plan to stop the sale of WayStar RoyCo, effectively aligning himself with Logan and Greg. This satisfies the foreshadowing told to Greg in episode 4 "Lion in the Meadow," during which Tom offers an abbreviated version of the Roman myth of Nero.

"Sporus was a young slave boy, and he was Nero’s favorite," Tom explains. "Nero pushed his wife down the stairs, and then he had Sporus castrated and he married him instead. And he gave him a ring and made him dress up like his dead wife…I’d murder and marry you in a heartbeat."

Tom’s telling of the myth doesn’t account for the wealth of confusion that comes with ancient stories, but it does seem to closely parallel the death of Neros’ second wife Poppaea Sabina. Critically, Poppaea was pregnant at the time of her death. So, was Shiv also with child at the time of her metaphoric slaying?

Pregnancy symptoms from the finale

There are two clues central to the "Shiv is pregnant" fan theory from the finale. They’re a bit flimsy, admittedly. But with a baby Roy on the brain (and Season 4 so far off), it’s easy to see everything as proof of pregnancy.

First, Shiv drinks water at the Collingwood-Munion wedding reception. More importantly, she toasts with water — a major faux pas someone like Shiv would know to avoid.

Theoretically, this implies that Shiv already knows she is pregnant and isconsciously avoiding alcohol. But that bumps against the implication that she and Tom had not been having sex up until their fateful night in episode 8, seemingly the night before. (She's seen drinking wine immediately before that scene, FWIW.)So it's unlikely Shiv would know she was pregnant if they conceived then.

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Credit: Screenshot: HBO

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Credit: Screenshot: HBO

Second, the final shot sees Shiv grab at her belly.Fans who think she's pregnant (from episode 8 or earlier) argue that's an instinctive move, reflecting of a subconscious need for Shiv to protect her womb. Fans who don't think she's pregnant say it's just a well-acted reaction, conveying the "gut punch" feeling she would be getting when what Tom did to her starts to sink in.


An additional dangler in the pregnancy symptoms mess comes from the top of episode 8, in which Shiv is seen wallowing in bed instead of making it to a board meeting. Was she making a point or experiencing morning sickness?

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Maybe! Credit: Screenshot: HBO

Of course, we won't know if Tom and Shiv's baby is for real until Season 4 next year. But with so much suggesting they'll soon be a family of three — and the way a pregnant Shiv would give the character a small bit of much-needed, narratively rich leverage over that traitorous Tom — it's probably best to go ahead and save the date for a Succession baby shower. Maybe put it in your iCal?

Succession is now streaming on HBOMax.

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All the signs from the ‘Succession’ finale that hint at Shiv's pregnancy (2024)

FAQs

Whose baby is Shiv pregnant with? ›

Shiv's arc in season 4, it turns out, paralleled Snook's own journey closely, with the character realizing she was pregnant with her and estranged husband Tom's baby in episode 4 of the final season.

Is Tom the father of Shiv's baby? ›

Shiv is pregnant with Tom's baby, conceived just before their marriage collapsed, as Shiv softly cooed to him, "I don't love you." At the last possible minute, Shiv voted to let her family's company be sold to Swedish tech weirdo Lukas Matsson (Alexander Skarsgård), who handed the CEO position to Tom.

Was Shiv pregnant in season 3 finale? ›

But this same quality—her gender, her status as a mother-to-be who carries Logan's grandchild—keeps her tethered to the company, even after her brothers have been cut out. In the finale, Tom is crowned the new CEO of Waystar Royco, and Shiv is carrying their baby.

Do Kendall and Roman know Shiv is pregnant? ›

The embarrassing tumble makes the moment even more humiliating — but it's also concerning, because nobody knows Shiv is pregnant. Upstairs, Kendall and Roman enter Logan's office, an inner sanctum they've rarely stepped foot in.

Is the actress that plays Shiv pregnant in real life? ›

Succession's Shiv gives birth in real life as Sarah Snook welcomes her first baby. Succession star Sarah Snook has given birth to her first child. The actress - who plays Shiv Roy in the HBO drama that ended on Monday night - shared a glimpse of her red-headed baby while watching the finale.

Are Shiv and Roman Roy twins? ›

However, one defining suggestion that they aren't twins is that on the HBO website, Shiv is referred to as the 'youngest of the Roy children'.

Why did Shiv choose Tom in the end? ›

Perhaps she determined she could have more power as the wife of the CEO and mother of his child. "She saw [a] better angle [with] Tom," one fan argued on Reddit, while another agreed she "realized she would have a strong position with Tom as CEO."

Why does Shiv vote against Kendall? ›

Strong, for his part, suggested on HBO's Succession Podcast that Shiv ultimately votes against Ken because she and Roman “just can't tolerate seeing Kendall win, in a sense. I think what they perceive as his sort of grandiosity and self-importance, and putting his feet up on dad's desk, they can't stomach it.

Are Kendall's kids adopted? ›

With his wife, Rava, Kendall has an adopted daughter, Sophie, and a son Iverson, who is implied to have been conceived via artificial insemination.

Why does Shiv look different in Season 2? ›

Her physical transformation from the first season to the second is a significant indicator of her change in mindset and career ambitions and an unspoken demand to be taken more seriously.

What did Roman say about bloodline Succession? ›

He takes one last stab at the throne by saying he's the eldest boy (Conheads would certainly disagree), to which Roman makes a quip that even the most astute viewer may have been confused by. Roman claims Shiv is the bloodline of the Roy family because Kendall's kids “aren't real”.

Whose notebook did Shiv spit in? ›

Shiv spat in Kendall's drink, as she did his notebook.

What is the age difference between Tom and Shiv? ›

The one angle about Shiv and Tom's relationship we never hear about, oddly, is that Tom is around 15 years older than Shiv.

How did Shiv get pregnant? ›

Considering Tom's betrayal and their ensuing trial-separation period, we can only conclude that Shiv got pregnant naturally during the period she and Tom were “trying,” whether it was at the wedding or in the days leading up to it.

Who is Roman's mother in Succession? ›

Caroline Collingwood (Harriet Walter)

The mother of Kendall, Shiv and Roman — and second ex-wife of Logan — Caroline is an absentee mother who is rarely there to support her three children.

Who is the father of Savi's baby on Succession? ›

Shiv as a single mom to a rando's child would not look attractive to the conservative Waystar board, and it especially wouldn't look good to Logan. (Plus, executive producer and writer Lucy Prebble confirmed on the official Succession podcast that Tom is the father.)

Was Siobhan actually pregnant? ›

The Adelaide-born actor added that she was actually pregnant while filming the show's final 10-episode season. However, she reassured viewers, “I mean, you couldn't super tell.”

Whose son is Shiv in Balika Vadhu? ›

Balika Vadhu will advocate the social issue of adoption in its upcoming track, with the entry of child actor Khushmeet Gill as Shiv (Siddharth Shukla) and Anandi's (Toral Rasputra) adopted son.

Do Kendall and Shiv have the same mom? ›

Lady Caroline Alexandra Helena St John Collingwood is the second wife of Logan Roy and mother of Kendall, Roman, and Shiv. She is portrayed by Harriet Walter.

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